Quixote, tedious Quixote

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Nice post on art & literature, both old and new. I don't think I agree with some of your pints, but I'll have to digest your post to be more able to explain my discomfort.

By the way, you might want to look into the Reading Is Sexy group. This post would be an excellent addition.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts. :)
This is Cervantes saying as author, "See, I don't have to follow any rules,"

I think that you're saying as a reader, "See, I don't have to follow any rules." I feel you. There's a difference between enjoying something and appreciating something. It's intellectual, elitist bunk that thinking people need to enjoy all things that should be appreciated. Why is it socially acceptable for some people to turn down a tasting of perfectly prepared fresh fish because their taste buds don't enjoy seafood, but people may be scoffed at for not enjoying a critically acclaimed piece of art?

Those are my thoughts, but then again, I had to dictionary.com the word- pablum, so maybe I'm treading in intellectual waters above my head. :)
Hey Peter. I loved this post. I've been thinking about this lately too, not with books as much as films we've seen lately, as I have library fines my time spent in the company of a good book has been greatly diminished. Hopefully a new job will remedy this situation for me.
Last year I heard a statement released by "the Academy" about the Oscars that year, and how disappointed they were with them. Or rather, with us. Serious films, like "Brokeback Mountain" garnered no big awards and he (the man addressing this obvious dilemma) was disappointed with all us normal everyday movie-goers for not having more open minds. Basically the undertone of his message stated that if we were more educated, more socially conscious, more liberal, more refined, and had some concept of the world today as it really is, we'd have seen things differently. He spoke of the general public with such disdain I was amazed he ever left his house to venture into the common areas of society. I was massively offended. We let them all down by being so basic. For loving Lord of the Rings and shunning such stunning works of "art" as Brokeback Mountain.
Every reveiw I read of Brokeback had one thing in common to say. Whether you are hederosexual (I'm dying for a spell check here), homosexual, homo-phobic, bisexual, trisexual or any combination of the above, or a new combination that you're making up, this film was simply...boring. The story didn't move, the characters were poorly developed, the issue was real but so what? All I heard about it that was positive, was that it had good photography and a pretty score. Hate to disappoint you, but I'd rather watch the Black Stallion, if I'm going for brilliant photography and pretty music.
If we'd like to get down to the basics, I'd be happy to, after all, I'm paying the bills here, essentially. I want to be entertained on a Friday night when we spend $30 dollars on a movie. Provide that, or don't, that's your right as an artist, but if I don't bite, it's not because I'm uneducated, or socially unaware. It's usually because I'm bored. I've been left with no satisfaction.
This is what I love about Steven Spielberg versus say...Andrew Niccol. I watched Lord of War this last year and was not only disappointed, but angry. Not just by the movie itself, but by the way it was presented to me. I was sold the movie in the preview by witty one-liners from Nicholas Cage making it look like sure, it had a political agenda, but perhaps more on the lines of "Thank You For Smoking" . I thought all the movie actually did was horrify you with graphic violence (which I don't have a problem with, when used correctly), terrible plot twist that robbed you of all hope that perhaps this would turn out okay (not great, but okay) for our hero, whose identity I was still debating. In the end, all it did was disgust you and end with the idea that "You think this is bad? The US government does it all the time. Na-na-na-na-na." And...roll credits. If you actually have a statement to make, that you really believe in, then why sell me the movie as a "political comedy" (did I just invent a genre?) and then surprise me with what you're actually doing? If the point was that great, you wouldn't have to trick your audience into hearing it in the first place.
Two nights ago we watched Munich. Same level of violence, and sexual content for that matter. Totally different feel to the movie. We watched the interview with Spielberg first, and I was impressed with what he said of the movie. "I'm not trying to make a point, I'm trying to start a discussion. I don't even know if all my facts here are completely accurate, but I'm a story teller. I'm embellishing what I don't know. I'm not making a statement either way, I'm just giving you the option to look at this from a side you may not have seen before. Take it or leave it, but I hope you enjoy it." (Completely paraphrased). It was brilliantly acted, beautifully shot, it was just as horrifying (perhaps more) just as real an issue and it made me think, as well as entertained me for two and a half hours. I figure, if you're selling it to me, then play off what you know I'll like, or even sell me what I may not like (or enjoy) so much but do it honestly. I knew when sitting down to Munich that I wasn't going to walk away with the same feeling as Sleepless in Seattle. I'm okay with that.
As for your dillemma with the book, maybe set it down and pick up, say, The Chronicles of Narnia. Peter and I have been reading them to each other the last year or more, and I'm amazed at what they offer. I love them, they address real world issues in a fairy tale setting, are beautifully and emotionally written, and I couldn't rave more about the brilliance of C.S. Lewis, whether it is Voyage of the Dawn Treader, or The Great Divorce.
This is ridiculously long, especially since I haven't really spoken to you much since the wedding. Hope you and your family are doing well. I meant to tell you that I loved meeting them all this September. They're lovely. Again, sorry for the length of the comment. This is apparently what happens when I'm left at home alone with too much coffee. God Bless.
Hey Melanie,

I like how you contrasted Munich and Lord of War, and the creator's honesty in declaring their intentions. I agree that this is nearly always annoying, to start a movie thinking one thing, and get something completely other. I like Spielberg's style of filmmaking, kind of populist, where the basic theme of the movie is very clear, and then subtle nuances are woven in to the story. Schindler's List and Minority Report both seem to have that sense of "simple premise" with "complex details/working out of plot".

Sometimes that "dishonesty" can have powerful results. I really enjoyed Million Dollar Baby, and the surprising shift in the movie was a big part of my appreciation. It hit me out of nowhere, but I found that surprise effective, interesting, moving. Other people, my friend Ruben included, felt misled, betrayed, suckered by the surprise twist. So...sometimes it can work.

This whole thing kind of moves into subjective territory. I can't really say that Quixote is bad because it frustrates me. Matt's comment on "enjoyment versus appreciation" taps into that. Something can be both groundbreaking artistically and still disappointing to me as a viewer. It's all about expectations, in a lot of ways.

I hear you on the Chronicles of Narnia. I really enjoy the realism and beauty of those stories. It reminds me of something Lewis said (can't remember where) about how he thought art of medieval times was underrated. I can't help but think one reason could be it precedes all the sarcasm and self-awareness of modernity.

This is apparently what happens when I'm left at home alone with too much coffee.

I understand! Similar things happen when I post comments late at night. :)

Good to hear from you, and missed seeing you both at Gma's funeral in MN. I know you both wanted to be there.

Matt: Re: dictionary.com and "pablum"...now you know! and knowing is half the battle ;)

From my comment to Melanie: This whole thing kind of moves into subjective territory. I can't really say that Quixote is bad because it frustrates me. Matt's comment on "enjoyment versus appreciation" taps into that. Something can be both groundbreaking artistically and still disappointing to me as a viewer. It's all about expectations, in a lot of ways.

It's like we need special permission to be satisfied with storytelling that isn't avante-garde. I almost said "art" instead, but I realize that the point of art is in some ways to push the envelope. But sometimes you want something other than having your mind blown, your perception challenged, something more satisfying and less rigorous, while not totally <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/banal">banal</a>. (^_^) So, what word describes that? "Entertainment with substance"? We need some inbetween words between Entertainment and Art, I think.


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